Hi Ive just joined after reading all this. Kevy I have no idea who you are or who you think you are, but you seem very sure of yourself and you also are incredibly rude to other people here. For your information you are WRONG about many, many things on this message board.
I dont know if you are a basher, a fan turned hater, a jealous guy, I really have no idea but you are very rude and have some kind of problem. If you dont like Shania or her fans then why are you spending so much time here? You need to grow up and do something positive with your life.
Sorry but it had to be said.
You actually know very little compared with what you seem to think you know, your theory is completely wrong, I wont say who I am but lets just say I knwo more than you. I dont think fans will believe what you say because of your attitude in any case.
-- Edited by STF1 at 22:09, 2008-10-16
Sure you know more than me, and I have a place in Iraq I will sell you. Thats right you have no clue who I am. I have been a fan longer than you probably and I am not naive.I defended Shania for years and recently I think Shania has taken advantage of her fans, that is my opinion. What you said is very rude too and it isn't even the truth. And I do things that are postive with my life like coach soccer and hockey and run an advertising business. I don't sit around the computer feeling sorry for a zillionaire whose marriage broke up even if I am a fan. I also try and help those really suffering like kids with cancer and woman who are beaten and abused in relationships and have no money and nowhere to turn. I do alot of positive that nobody knows of. So don't go around pretending you know me or my life. I have been a Shania fan for over 13 years and I tell it like it is and trust me I have sources that will prove what I say is true, I am not happy that Shania has become like this, it make me sad that her career has vanished and she will be known as Mutt's puppet.I hate that people will think that about her. But I call it as I see it and I also have been bashed by people here for my point of view that will turn out to be correct.
Its funny watching you go. that horse of yours is pretty high, you should come down from it. You have no idea who I am so you can't possibly make out you know more, you know nothing about me, yet all I see is complete garbage in most of what you say. You clearly do not know Shania at all.
"I have been a fan longer than you PROBABLY". A definate and a maybe!
You obviously do have an issue, you have hundreds of posts here so you clearly DO have time to sit around talking about Shania. At no point in my post did I claim to know you and thank god I dont...You also do not know Mutt very well, its completely true that he avoids the spotlight but believe me you do not know the real Mutt, you would be very surprised if you did how different he is from what people think.
Welcome to the board STF1.
I think it's pretty clear that Kevy has opinions and not everyone agrees with them, however, Tommy gives everyone quite a bit of freedom to express themselves here.
Since it seems that you are implying that you have inside information, how about sharing some of what you do know about our Shania and her husband?
I think it's pretty clear that Kevy has opinions and not everyone agrees with them, however, Tommy gives everyone quite a bit of freedom to express themselves here.
Since it seems that you are implying that you have inside information, how about sharing some of what you do know about our Shania and her husband?
-- Edited by myspaceone at 22:38, 2008-10-16
Well as I see it that freedom goes a little too far at times, I only stopped by here a very short time and it appears there is a lot of abuse also allowed which is beyond freedom of expression, I would imagine more people would post messages here if they were not so open to abuse.
Shania and Mutt are two human beings, both wonderful people and of course there is a stage persona but real people behind that, please everybody remember that before declaring such wrong information in public. People occasionally (a small minority it has to be said) are negative towards Shania for being such a private person, and who can blame her when she is so open to such attitudes? She has to distance herself because in this role normal life is impossible, she cannot possibly reply to all her letters, people clearly have no idea how much mail she gets to this very day. People openly attack her very morals and principles without having the faintest idea what she does. She does not live a very extravagent life, far from it, unlike many famous people, she is tremendously humble.
I think it's pretty clear that Kevy has opinions and not everyone agrees with them, however, Tommy gives everyone quite a bit of freedom to express themselves here.
Since it seems that you are implying that you have inside information, how about sharing some of what you do know about our Shania and her husband?
-- Edited by myspaceone at 22:38, 2008-10-16
Well as I see it that freedom goes a little too far at times, I only stopped by here a very short time and it appears there is a lot of abuse also allowed which is beyond freedom of expression, I would imagine more people would post messages here if they were not so open to abuse.
Shania and Mutt are two human beings, both wonderful people and of course there is a stage persona but real people behind that, please everybody remember that before declaring such wrong information in public. People occasionally (a small minority it has to be said) are negative towards Shania for being such a private person, and who can blame her when she is so open to such attitudes? She has to distance herself because in this role normal life is impossible, she cannot possibly reply to all her letters, people clearly have no idea how much mail she gets to this very day. People openly attack her very morals and principles without having the faintest idea what she does. She does not live a very extravagent life, far from it, unlike many famous people, she is tremendously humble.
We have heard it all before about how humble and great she is. We are all fans here but we can also question her. You seem to think she is perfect and should never be questioned. Ask her sometimes what is her excuse for not once attending fan fair in over a decade. It is not just one thing. She has over the course of the last many years basically ingnored the fans in every aspect. Are we to praise her nonstop or actually wake up and question her. My guess is you are her band member but do you not think the fans are owed any comments at all by her. Why do other artists show the fans respect.
Fans do not question their fav artists, they are grateful for what they have been given and should be happy for anything else which comes along whenever that may be. Would you prefer a quick, cheaply made album below standards? If so find another artist.
If you are not satisfied nobody is forcing you to hang around. Everybody else seems happy to wait and not put her under pressure at this moment in time. You seem to suggest she isn't human, but actually I find your lack of caring and understanding towards her to be very un-human and uncaring.
Fans do not question their fav artists, they are grateful for what they have been given and should be happy for anything else which comes along whenever that may be. Would you prefer a quick, cheaply made album below standards? If so find another artist.
Now that is sounding like we should worship her and kiss the ground whenever she walks. I think Shania should be grateful she has any fans left too. She should thank her lucky stars that many have stuck with her but some have left too. I hopes she is welcomed back but I think she burned too many bridges with fans. I will buy her next project though.
OK so I guess that means you want the cheap poor quality album. Your posts are very immature, Shania would not want people to worship her and kiss the ground. What you should understand is that she is a human being, if she releases material (when she is ready) fans can buy it if they want, she is no way a slave to people demanding and giving her deadlines. Or what? They will leave her as a fan? Does she need fans like that?
People have lives, if Shania is between albums and people dont post on internet message boards this does not mean they have left her! How many registered people are on each board? A few hundred or thousand? Yet she sells over 10 million every album, where do they all come from? When they heard about the sad news the message boards were buzzing with caring fans worried about her and her family. They have not gone anyway, they are living their own lives and are still fans. You have to understand this.
OK so I guess that means you want the cheap poor quality album. Your posts are very immature, Shania would not want people to worship her and kiss the ground. What you should understand is that she is a human being, if she releases material (when she is ready) fans can buy it if they want, she is no way a slave to people demanding and giving her deadlines. Or what? They will leave her as a fan? Does she need fans like that?
People have lives, if Shania is between albums and people dont post on internet message boards this does not mean they have left her! How many registered people are on each board? A few hundred or thousand? Yet she sells over 10 million every album, where do they all come from? When they heard about the sad news the message boards were buzzing with caring fans worried about her and her family. They have not gone anyway, they are living their own lives and are still fans. You have to understand this.
What cheap poor quality album? How does that make an album cheap? You think the longer you wait the better the album?lol!!! Shania's COO album was made in a very short time from her TWIM album and it was the greatest pop country album of alltime. In fact the longer you wait the worse it is and the more expectation there is and people will be let down. Yeah I know about human beings. My auntie lost her son from a brain tumor at 10 yearsold and she had to work 3 jobs to support her family right after the death. She always had a smile on her face and never complained. Don't try and explain to me why a healthy zillionaire treats her fans like this and makes excuses for not making music which isn't even work if you are passionate about it.
What cheap poor quality album? How does that make an album cheap? You think the longer you wait the better the album?lol!!! Shania's COO album was made in a very short time from her TWIM album and it was the greatest pop country album of alltime. In fact the longer you wait the worse it is and the more expectation there is and people will be let down. Yeah I know about human beings. My auntie lost her son from a brain tumor at 10 yearsold and she had to work 3 jobs to support her family right after the death. She always had a smile on her face and never complained. Don't try and explain to me why a healthy zillionaire treats her fans like this and makes excuses for not making music which isn't even work if you are passionate about it.
You said you want it faster, that would be a cheap poor quality album.
I thought it was generally known that the reason Shania's previous albums have been so good was because of how carefully put together they were? All Mutt's productions are slow, Luke Lewis had an argreement not to have the usual time limits to allow for this and it is widely known this was a big reason for the success.
Im sorry to hear if your relative had a hard time, it has very little to do with this, you shouldnt be associating other people's hard times with Shania making an album.
As for suggesting Shania treating her fans badly, did you even go on the last tour? I guess you could say I saw it all pretty well, and everything I saw was 100% fan focus from Shania, her entire show and tour was designed and based around her fans. You show me an artist who allows fans to watch rehearsal, sign mid concert, sing on stage, meet and greets? She gave you double amount of music on her CD. Yes double, she wanted that CD full. ANd then what else? She gave you a second CD. Did it cost any more? No. What else do you want? An invite to dinner?
What cheap poor quality album? How does that make an album cheap? You think the longer you wait the better the album?lol!!! Shania's COO album was made in a very short time from her TWIM album and it was the greatest pop country album of alltime. In fact the longer you wait the worse it is and the more expectation there is and people will be let down. Yeah I know about human beings. My auntie lost her son from a brain tumor at 10 yearsold and she had to work 3 jobs to support her family right after the death. She always had a smile on her face and never complained. Don't try and explain to me why a healthy zillionaire treats her fans like this and makes excuses for not making music which isn't even work if you are passionate about it.
You said you want it faster, that would be a cheap poor quality album.
I thought it was generally known that the reason Shania's previous albums have been so good was because of how carefully put together they were? All Mutt's productions are slow, Luke Lewis had an argreement not to have the usual time limits to allow for this and it is widely known this was a big reason for the success.
Im sorry to hear if your relative had a hard time, it has very little to do with this, you shouldnt be associating other people's hard times with Shania making an album.
As for suggesting Shania treating her fans badly, did you even go on the last tour? I guess you could say I saw it all pretty well, and everything I saw was 100% fan focus from Shania, her entire show and tour was designed and based around her fans. You show me an artist who allows fans to watch rehearsal, sign mid concert, sing on stage, meet and greets? She gave you double amount of music on her CD. Yes double, she wanted that CD full. ANd then what else? She gave you a second CD. Did it cost any more? No. What else do you want? An invite to dinner?
I guess we just have different views of what an artist should represent. I will leave it at that. And saying the fans want an album fast is not true but we are waiting on 6 years and it will be 7 years if she finally releaes it in 2009. I am just an average fan voicing my opinion and I know you are defending your friend and our favorite artist and I respect that. I really hope Shania connects with the fans but she hasn't been to fan fair in over a decade and has turned down so many things the past 7 years. Even her hollywood walk of fame ceremony hasn't been scheduled yet and her fans worked hard to get her nominated and she got accepted to receive a star but she never had her ceremony.This was in 2006 yet.There are so many examples where she let the fans down and I am just giving my thoughts.
Hi Ive just joined after reading all this. Kevy I have no idea who you are or who you think you are, but you seem very sure of yourself and you also are incredibly rude to other people here. For your information you are WRONG about many, many things on this message board.
I dont know if you are a basher, a fan turned hater, a jealous guy, I really have no idea but you are very rude and have some kind of problem. If you dont like Shania or her fans then why are you spending so much time here? You need to grow up and do something positive with your life.
Sorry but it had to be said.
You actually know very little compared with what you seem to think you know, your theory is completely wrong, I wont say who I am but lets just say I knwo more than you. I dont think fans will believe what you say because of your attitude in any case.
-- Edited by STF1 at 22:09, 2008-10-16
This couldn't have been worded any better if I do say so myself and STF1 (especially if it's true, this is one of her band members) should be applauded for taking time out of their busy schedule to come on here and share their thoughts, most importantly though to put Kevy in his place. I hope STF1 will drop by again some time, but that may be unlikely.
Hi Ive just joined after reading all this. Kevy I have no idea who you are or who you think you are, but you seem very sure of yourself and you also are incredibly rude to other people here. For your information you are WRONG about many, many things on this message board.
I dont know if you are a basher, a fan turned hater, a jealous guy, I really have no idea but you are very rude and have some kind of problem. If you dont like Shania or her fans then why are you spending so much time here? You need to grow up and do something positive with your life.
Sorry but it had to be said.
You actually know very little compared with what you seem to think you know, your theory is completely wrong, I wont say who I am but lets just say I knwo more than you. I dont think fans will believe what you say because of your attitude in any case.
-- Edited by STF1 at 22:09, 2008-10-16
This couldn't have been worded any better if I do say so myself and STF1 (especially if it's true, this is one of her band members) should be applauded for taking time out of their busy schedule to come on here and share their thoughts, most importantly though to put Kevy in his place. I hope STF1 will drop by again some time, but that may be unlikely.
Are you trying to start another fight? He didn't put anyone in there place.He was just saying stuff that we have heard before.He was just sticking up for his friend and was over the top in his comments too. I respect him for sticking up for his friend but it sounds like he treats Shania like a God too and should never be questions. What did you expect? He works for Shania and has to praise her. but hasn't worked for her in many years now since she doens't tour. He is not in Shania's personal life from day to day. In fact I disagree with most of what he says but I respect him for making his point. he also thinks Shania will sell 10 million with her next album which will be impossible. Nobody will sell that much anymore. He also thinks we should bow down to her and be thankful she even puts out an album which is way over the top. But he never mentions how Shania should be thankful for her fans and how they put up with her. So all in all, he never added much that hasn't already been stated by others.
-- Edited by EveryBodyLovesKevy at 14:46, 2008-10-17
-- Edited by EveryBodyLovesKevy at 14:58, 2008-10-17
-- Edited by EveryBodyLovesKevy at 14:59, 2008-10-17
It has me pondering which of her band members it could be. I know Hardy has his own thread on the Shania Forums, maybe someone from that board tipped him off about the things being discussed on here and felt they needed clearing up, anyway it did the trick.
Nothing got clieared up. Just the same comments he has always made. I respect him for making them but what do you expect for somwone who works for Shania. I think he may be surprised at how many people will not buy her next album. He said she will sell 10 million, no chance of that. She never even sold that of her UP album. It scanned 5.8 million in the STates and that was coming off her COO worldwide mega album. She has waited many,many years now and is 43 yearsold and the general public don't feel the same way the few hundred who post on message boards do.
i don't know who STF1 was but they sure sounded like then new the music biz,whacked kevy around pretty good to
Actually he didn't smack anyone around except maybe you got lost in the shuffle because you can't carry a normal conversation without insults and immature jabs that I hope Tommy warns you about. I respect his comments way more than anything you ever posted because at least he seems like he has some common sense. But I disagree with most of what he said and it sounds like he thinks Shania is above it all and never should be question and she is such an angel and I am so evil for daring to question anything she does/ He was just a guy who works for Shania sticking up for Shania and saying the same thing we have heard before. I respect him for making his point of view clear but I disagree with him, that is what a free country is all about. I don't have to kiss butt like most here just to follow the clique. I can have different views without being bashed for them.
-- Edited by EveryBodyLovesKevy at 14:54, 2008-10-17
please kevy as i have said and it didn't take take STF1 long to see how immature you are,and you are a hypocrite,you bash other members all the time if there opinions are different then yours,look a grapes thread "goodbye" you say i shouldn't judge people i don't know, yet you bashed grape about saying shania was part of his family now you defend him because he's mad at shania,the only person on this board i bash is you,i thought grape's comment about shania being part of his family were weird but i didn't feel the need to attack him over it,just you did that oh yes you did get your butt kicked last night
please kevy as i have said and it didn't take take STF1 long to see how immature you are,and you are a hypocrite,you bash other members all the time if there opinions are different then yours,look a grapes thread "goodbye" you say i shouldn't judge people i don't know, yet you bashed grape about saying shania was part of his family now you defend him because he's mad at shania,the only person on this board i bash is you,i thought grape's comment about shania being part of his family were weird but i didn't feel the need to attack him over it,just you did that oh yes you did get your butt kicked last night
-- Edited by kelc317 at 15:37, 2008-10-17
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Do you speak any english, you can't even post normal lol!! I hope Tommy banns you for bashing and calling names. I feel really sorry for you because you are the only one on this board with such problems that you feel a need to consume your life with my post. I think just about anyone on this board post more intelligently than you.
Kevy you are in the middle of every argument here because you are immature and continually bash shania with lies. Its true you bash anyone and everyone who has a kind thing to say about her. Guess what kevy, you present as someone who is overthetop mad at shania....your resentment and anger run deep. to the point of an obsession. You really need to take a look at yourself and I do not say this lightly.
i know kevy you can't address what im saying so you just change the subject,and again kevy i only bash you and the only reason i do it is because you are always attacking other members,i don't feel the need to constantly bash people i read a lot of stuff here i don't agree with but i just try to respect other people's views you should try it sometime
Kevy you are in the middle of every argument here because you are immature and continually bash shania with lies. Its true you bash anyone and everyone who has a kind thing to say about her. Guess what kevy, you present as someone who is overthetop mad at shania....your resentment and anger run deep. to the point of an obsession. You really need to take a look at yourself and I do not say this lightly.
And lulu you are constantly in the middle of it too.You and Kelc are the only 2 who keeps responding to me time after time. I think you need to take your own advice and get some help.
You hate it when someone disputes what you say. I've seen a few posters finally come out of the woodwork to respond to your lies. Your anger and resentment just oozes from your posts....you really need to get a grip.
You hate it when someone disputes what you say. I've seen a few posters finally come out of the woodwork to respond to your lies. Your anger and resentment just oozes from your posts....you really need to get a grip.
You seem more angry than me lol!!! You just can't let someone get the last word. I could see your face turn red while you type.I feel sorry for you that you are so obsessed with defending every little post that you have to respond to every one with babble.
Anyway I have clients to see as I run an advertising company with my friend. So enjoy wasting the rest of the afternoon on a computer. I am lucky I can sit in my office and go out once a day for appointments. I am going out to the real world where nobody thinks about Shania Twain.
As their fans know, being in love with the Toronto Maple Leafs is a frustrating, thankless exercise in disappointment that rarely allows horns to be honked, flags to be waved, or giant beer bellies painted blue and white to be slammed together in celebration. A whisper making the rounds claims Shania Twain has been added to the ranks of Canadians who have given their hearts to this league of losers. Buzz is that Shania, who was left heartbroken after her husband of 14 years hooked up with the family secretary, is now dating Maple Leafs goalie Curtis "Cujo" Joseph. Sources tell the Toronto Sun that there is no truth to the rumour. When the Toronto Sun asked about the affair, the puck blocker only smiled. Is he the Mona Lisa?According to Cujo's profiles on beacons of credibility like IMDB and TV.com, the 41-year-old is married to his high school sweetheart, Nancy, and has four children: Madison, Tristan, Taylor and Luke. If this is all true, that would make these two the Canadian Madge and A-Rod, and cardboard Shania Twain masks at Leafs games would surely follow. But until boots are actually found under beds, consider them single until they're proven doing it.UPDATE: A friend of the Joseph family says Curtis and Nancy have been separated for months.What do you think? Email ryan.porter@msn.com
Odds are that the rumor is not true, but you never know. Nobody knows enough right now to dismiss it completely. The rumor generated alot of quick buzz but has since seemed to have died down. But there may have been something real behind that initial buzz.
if shania is in Switzerland and hockey season has just started it would be hard for them to have much time together
Yes, but they could have had a summer romance (when she was in Toronto) for all we know. Just because the rumor is breaking right now doesn't mean they're together right now at this moment. Rumors often spring up quite awhile after the situation has been happening already.
yeh but look at it this way,maybe they went out once or twice and it was no big deal,and being apart now they don't have to say anything,plus there really hasn't been anymore talk about it so maybe her pr people were right to just ignore the rumor and it will go away
if shania is in Switzerland and hockey season has just started it would be hard for them to have much time together
Yes, but they could have had a summer romance (when she was in Toronto) for all we know. Just because the rumor is breaking right now doesn't mean they're together right now at this moment. Rumors often spring up quite awhile after the situation has been happening already.
i agree, the madonna getting a divorce story broke months ago everybody denied it now they have filed,so who knows i did believe at the time shania's pr people would have denied it if it wasn't true
Another way to look at is if it's true, maybe Shania had asked him not to say anything, especially the fact he's going through his own split and it would only complicate matters.
Another way to look at is if it's true, maybe Shania had asked him not to say anything, especially the fact he's going through his own split and it would only complicate matters.
-- Edited by twain2country at 16:57, 2008-10-18
plus i think a lot celbs don't want people knowing much when they first start to date in case things don't work out,is curtis going threw a split, there really hasn't been any info on him filing for divorce,there was another rumor that said curtis wasn't the guy she was dating he was a decoy and the other guy was married,then the report said curtis was a lousy choice for a decoy because he was married,thats when i started to think the whole thing was just a bunch of bs,but sometimes there is some truth but who knows
Someone posted on Shania's CMT message board that Mutt never had an affair and it was Shania's affair with Curtis Joseph that broke up both marriages. This is getting out of hand, it's not fair to have all this false stuff spread about her.
i don't think shania would have accused mutt and best friend with having a affair if she was the one having it,she wouldn't have said anything if that was the case,plus mutt just denied the affair and even said they would remain friends,hard to believe he would made that statement if shania was cheating on him
Thinking about it, that sounds exactly like one of Kev's stupid posts. Doesn't he keep changing IDs for different message boards? After all, he was the one who first made the comment on this board about Shania not being heartbroken as everyone believes, her personal message being meaningless, and then tried to imply there was more information to come out about the split which fans weren't gonna like, not just the side that People magazine had been feeding.
If Shania had been the unfaithful spouse, wouldn't that jeopardize her chances of getting sole custody of Eja? She is the one furious at Mutt for the effect it's having on her son. She didn't want to expose Eja to the talk, that's why she fled to Canada.
And how anyone can question if Mutt really had an affair is beyond me, the Enquirer even did an interview with the secretary's husband and he confirmed that him and Shania are both victims of cheating.
Guys, try to ignore the postings at CMTboard, there is a particular person there that posts stupid stuff just to makes us angry,no substitute there,they've said other stuff in the past like shania was pregnant again or that Mutt was seeing Sara Evans is just some jokers,pay no attention.
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Guys, try to ignore the postings at CMTboard, there is a particular person there that posts stupid stuff just to makes us angry,no substitute there,they've said other stuff in the past like shania was pregnant again or that Mutt was seeing Sara Evans is just some jokers,pay no attention.
Now we have baby rumors???? As for Sara Evans and Mutt - nonsence.
i read on one of those boards once before there was a picture of shania pregnant that she was paying someone to carry the baby because she didn't want to lose her figure,the best one was shania was a allien
i read on one of those boards once before there was a picture of shania pregnant that she was paying someone to carry the baby because she didn't want to lose her figure,the best one was shania was a allien
that rumor about the pregnancy was disgusting,and just for the record THERE IS a pic of shania being pregnant but i guess those fools didn't bother to search more to find it.
as for the Alien rumor,what cai i say
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